Party Boat Likes & Dislikes [Archive] - The Fishing Line Forums

12-21-2007, 10:09 AM

Originally posted by Jaye43b
Great question!!! Thanks fir caring. My likes are:

*
* Bad fishing days may not be the Captains fault but those who do not provide a small discount on the next trip get my bu :!:

I have to strongly DISAGREE!! Why should a captian or boat provide any discount because you did not catch fish?? Where is that coming from?? In all my years no captain has ever had a written policy of money back gaurantee...

did you ever think that not catching fish is the sole fault of the angler himself?? No way shoud discounts be given because a person did not catch fish...

WC Fields said "never work with children or animals." and last I checked a fish is an animal not a human...there's no gaurantees in life and fishing is certainly a sport where you NEVER know what to expect.

Jaye43b

12-21-2007, 10:23 AM

That is the beauty of life . We can always express our opinions respectfully* then on occasion* agree to disagree.

I support several boats where the Captain gives out $3 or $5 discounts for the next trip under those circumstances. Most people that I know appreciate the gesture.

Over the years* I have accumulated a stack of these coupons at home that I do not use but I appreciate the thoughfulness of those Captains that I am not allowed to mention here.

They are always assured of getting MY business.

samborges

12-21-2007, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by Jaye43b
That is the beauty of life . We can always express our opinions respectfully* then on occasion* agree to disagree.

I support several boats where the Captain gives out $3 or $5 discounts for the next trip under those circumstances. Most people that I know appreciate the gesture.

Over the years* I have accumulated a stack of these coupons at home that I do not use but I appreciate the thoughfulness of those Captains that I am not allowed to mention here.

They are always assured of getting MY business.

Just to give my side* I have gotten discount ticket with 2 or 3 dollars off for the next trip. Whick I think is a great way for each captain to promote for a returning customer* you dont just get these coupons on bad day of fishing* I have gotten them when the fishing was great. Each person has a choice to pick from south shore* north shore* conn* RI or even NJ* like Capt GM who created a super thread/survey like this one. I just wish he was in the water* because as RJ knows* you are much closer for me go fishing and driving never been a issue with me. Just go and a few laugh and a few fish* give a good tip if the mate was johnny on the spot. I dont like those fishermen who thing they know it all* you tell them to change hook* bait * line or etc and play deaf. Then go ahead and leave all fish to me and other happy fishermen. Dont blame the captain of the boat for your bad day. Most party boat now go out on weekend* because of lack of customer* why? Maybe one of you all TFL members can answer this question better then I. I like going during the weekdays* because of less crowd. I dont mind 40 other hardcore fishermen and if we have to ditch out a little more cash* then thats ok with me. But the problem is that when I get there and there's only 4 other folks* it not worth for the captain to go out and burn fuel with just us. I also dont like when the boat captain puts the boat over the wreck for his people/mates to make the good catch. I like boats that provide tackle* if anything* these captain know what size* bait and etc. I dont want to carry to big tackle box* with all types of hook* sinkers and etc. I want to carry just 1 fishing rod* a bucket and my backpack* loaded with snacks and my camera for my awesome catch. So that I can posted onliine* by this I am promoting my catch and boat. Guess what* you have other members asking question* like where is this boat located* which brings more customer to the boat* because the captain trys hard to make the customer happy. This is a great question* but I need to finish up some holiday shopping and will touch base on this matter/question. I tired of typing. :crazy:

gimmesalt

12-21-2007, 07:03 PM

Likes
Good mates (fast to gaff/net the big ones* untangle lines* and keep bait ready)
Friendly mates
Good fish cleaning service
Captain who constantly checks what’s going on
Captain/mates who tell you if you are doing something wrong
Captain/mates who tell you how to fish for the current condition
Clean boat
Up to date website with reports (I hate when I see latest reports from 2005!)
Reasonable price
Bait and terminal tackle included
Snacks* beverages* coffee for sale

Dislikes
Opposite of above
Mates who look bothered when you ask for help
Pools that look fishy
No guidance whatsoever
Overcrowded boat

crabcake

12-21-2007, 08:52 PM

Likes:

Good Clientele (means I fish with good people)
Price
Flexibility
Galleys (or at least a microwave to heat things up on cold days)
Clean Heads/Non-smoking cabin (even when I was a smoker)

Dislikes:

Rude* Cocky* and Arrogant regular clientele (aka rail hogs/googans)
Rude* Cocky* and Arrogant mates
Overcrowding
Hidden Charges (just charge me $75-$85 instead of raping me for white crabs & lead)
Party boats where mates hound the "secret" bait that has been most productive

12-21-2007, 09:31 PM

That is a good one...no smoking..there are some boats I just won't go on anymore because I simply can't breathe in the cabin on cold days

mick2360

12-21-2007, 11:16 PM

Good point. I was on one boat where a 'regular' stunk up the cabin with a cigar while an ill advised young mother and her seven year old daughter were seasick. Alright* maybe the husband should have showed better judgement and waited for a calm day.....but fer crying out loud* how about some common courtesy. Smoking in the cabin is a definate problem; and I am a cigar smoker* although I believe they are best enjoyed out on the rail.

Oh and the secret bait thing. Nothing wrong with a mate taking care of those who have looked out for him in the past. On a new boat* I tip a partial upfront and let the mate know I appreciate them keeping an eye out for me and whomever I am fishing with. these guys need to make a living too!

CaptGM

12-21-2007, 11:48 PM

WOW...

Great input* I Love it.

There are many good comments being made* and apparently most of you have seen alot on the Party Boats.

I have copied most of the comments and will include some in my 2008 Crew manual so they hear it straight from the paying customer. Sometimes they don't believe the boss.

I* and I am sure some of the other sponsoring party boat owners appreciate the input. Keep it coming.

I look forward to meeting some of you at the boat show!

Capt Greg

Quest4GiantBlue

12-22-2007, 02:47 PM

Thanks for the opportunity. I very rarely have any issues on a trip but these items would definitely be tops on my list to keep me a returning customer or not..:

Likes:
Captain who knows the territory he/she fishes
Up to date honest fishing reports
Emailed special target or limited trips
Discounts for multiple trips for the season for a species(even a few bucks goes a long way in my book* it winds up going to the mates for service anyway)
Agile boats that can switch species in a heartbeat when what's targeted is not biting.
Boats that when in need and is functionally possible have mates fish to provide to those who get skunked ( Real nice gesture in my book)
Pools that are clear and transparent from the get go. No surprises in the end
Reasonable captain judgment - ( no one enjoys porgy fishing in 6 footers. If an outing goes sour in a heartbeat a reasonable discount is in order)
Friendly mates with experience
Early pay discounts ( for instance when prepaying more than three months in advance for an offshore trip to get a desired spot/bunk* I believe getting a small discount of a couple of points is a nice perk.)

Dislikes:
Captain who keeps on moving spots to show he/she's trying without any idea of what’s going on.
Favoritism to regulars whether in service* pools* tangles and most importantly RESEVERD SPOTS!
Stale* rotten* refrozen bait
No soap or toilet paper in the bathrooms

12-22-2007, 02:49 PM

How does one know when the captain is moving from spot to spot to try and look like they are doing something?? That is pretty far fetched:confused:

tbigg27

12-22-2007, 07:57 PM

keep you coming to the same Party Boats
Captains and Mates who make me feel that I'm the customer and it's their job to try and give me my monies worth.
They work hard and try their best.

Party Boats that advertise on TFL and post on blogs seeking to improve their service.

List 5 of your "Pet Peeves"

Not a real "Pet Peeve" but*
Captains and Mates who engage in Frat or clickish type behavior (hanging around the regulars and not taking time out to converse with each customer) who probably don't realize it but it makes the customers who are newbees feel like outsiders.

Captains who are deadbeats on the TFL.

Thanks Capt. G.
Hope to see you sometime in the New Year.

Happy Holidays to all!

TBigg27

Tony Y

12-22-2007, 10:40 PM

Like to ....Not have to clean the boat after I get off
Dislike .....Not having fresh bait....Hate when I can get off work early not have time to get my own bait and having all the bellies blown out of the spearing.That just POs me to no end!!!!!!!!

CaptGM

12-23-2007, 01:09 AM

Just a side note to a few likes/dislikes.

Sometimes Captains have to move around alot to stay on fish or just plain find them. Its funny because some of the folks hate when you don't move and the other half hates when we do move.

I do believe in the theory "don't leave fish to find fish" most often if you are on them * they will bite if you are patient (tide change* etc.)

At times we have found it nessasary to have a mate or two fish when things are slow to help get a few fish in the boat. Also we try to make sure that when kids are on the boat that they catch at least one fish* so we wil have a mate work with them and try to get them hooked up..

Good mates are the hard to find* I think all of the PB owners have a few* but need to fill in with part timers* or less experienced mates which can become frustrating for you and the Captains.

Thank you all for the great dialog.
Capt Greg

Quest4GiantBlue

12-23-2007, 05:19 PM

Originally posted by RJ
How does one know when the captain is moving from spot to spot to try and look like they are doing something?? That is pretty far fetched:confused:

I've been on local charters that leave a fishing spot with the fish biting just to move on. Yes* it makes no sense. It seems like they like to pick a few from each of their secret spots and not to allow the anglers to catch too many fish so there's more tomorrow.

Make no mistake about it* nothing that I've printed here should in any way be micontrued as relating to ALL party boat captains. I believe the original question was what keeps you coming back to a boat. I quoted only from my own expirience my likes and dislikes.

Hope that clears things up(??!)

mick2360

12-23-2007, 10:06 PM

We have all seen boats moved while fish are biting. I have always assumed the Captain didn't want to pick a drop clean and never had a problem with it. That being said* there is a heck of a lot that I don't know and I try to give a working crew the benefit of the doubt. It's good to hear greg's take on it. i look forward to a winter of reading his stuff and I'll definately look him up when I'm in Manasquan in the spring.

fluking icehole

01-02-2008, 09:50 PM

keep a smile on my kids face.......thats all i want....often people will ask if little johnny can drive the boat.....takes 10 seconds (depending where we are)...and i even take a pic of mom/dad and little sucker with his hands on the wheel....

amazing that i have 3 kids and the other capts who don't have kids will never do it......

Clam I am

01-04-2008, 03:59 PM

Hey CaptGM*

I like what you said about having the mates work with a child to increase his chances of hooking-up.

I always enjoyed showing a kid a few pointers or sharing my bait* its a great feeling to see a kids face lit up with excitement when he or she nails a lunker.

Have a great 08 on the water!

CaptGM

01-05-2008, 12:35 AM

Thanks*

I feel so strongly about getting kids into the sport because they are the future. What we teach them today* they can use and pass on. They need to have positive experiences in the sport to get them hooked. Then they will enjoy the whole fishng experience whether they catch alot or not.

I am doing a whole seminar on Kids and Partyboat Fishing at the NY Boat show. The next one on this topic is Sunday at 2:00. If you take a ride to the show stop by and say hello!

Capt Greg

rydogg

01-12-2008, 10:28 AM

things i like clean boat*mates that know what a customer wants*decent galley*real fishing reports*fresh bait.dislikes overcrowding of boats*old bait*not enough mates per people on boats*careless cleaning of fish*careless release of unwanted fish*example clubbing of doggies before release. saw it done.the most important thing i try to keep in mind is that i am there to enjoy myself whether i catch keepers or not at least im not at work!!!:thumb:

cowkiller

01-14-2008, 10:39 PM

dislikes:when someone pukes on my boots
likes:when everyone catches fish
dislikes:when someone steals my lunch
likes:when mates try to help someone that isnt catching to well
dislikes: when mates fish for money
likes:when everyone is treated fairly. ther spending there money to fish with you.
dislikes: when someone pukes in my boots:spin:

mick2360

01-15-2008, 12:01 AM

Memo To Self: Over The rail. Not On Joe's Boots! :D

OffTheHook13

01-17-2008, 08:52 AM

Captain/Mates that don't fish

Mates that aren't wise**** all the time

Boats that don't save their "prime" bait for only regulars.(White and Hermit Crabs when Toggin.)

No Smoking in the Cabin.

Boats that rail and then add 20 more fares.

rydogg

01-17-2008, 07:52 PM

boats that save prime bait for regulars and boats that take friends to where they are catching them.thats why i found out and started fishing onthat day.;)

CaptGM

01-18-2008, 12:36 AM

I really hope that there are more Party Boat owners and Captains that are reading these posts other than myself and perhaps some of the other site advertisers/sponsors.

Here is the tough part of fixing some of the "service" issues on Party Boats. Mates are not too hard to find...GOOD mates are hard to find* GREAT mates that understand the business and how to work with the boats customers are almost non existant.
Captains & Owners need to get on deck more and keep the fishing and nonsence down to a minimum.

All boats have "Regulars" that come out as often as every week during the season on a particular boat. If you were a regular* you would also expect VIP treatment and enjoy it. Its all part of customer service. This can be done however without ignoring new customers or not so regular customers or saving the "Best Baits" etc. It sound idealistic given that people are people* but in the customer service business all guests on our boat should get the attention they pay for.

Mates should not be fishing as a rule* however it is necessary at times to put them at the rail to bring a few fish in and get things going. They should not be doing this while customers aboard need assistance. Mates need to understand this. Those of us that are "old School" learned to take care of the folks that make your days pay. Why O why dont the young ones today get it?

Party Boat Capts likes.

Customers that play nice with the other fisherpersons on the boat!
Folks that bring Kids out to fish and learn the sport
Folks that come to FISH and have FUN* not use our vessels as floating taverns.
Customers we can learn a few new tricks from and want to learn a few themselves.
Customers that "take care" of the GOOD mates.
Customers that dont always second guess the Capt. on a not so good day. Did they ever try to catch fish for 50-100 people every day? Dont think so...not so easy every day. We do Try* REALLLY.
Seeing LOTS of KIDS & FAMILIES Aboard.
People that leave the boat with a smile and a handshake!

DISLIKES
Folks who try to beat the fare!
Folks that get "SICK" in the heads.
Drunken disorderly
The "Pro's" and want to prove it.
Folks that have no PB Etiquette
Reel "Birdnesters" - Keep the Thumb on the Spool!
Overhand casting.
Braided line on trips it does not belong on. The cutless bearings hate this Big Time!

And by all means DO NOT throw up in a Capts* or MATES Boots!

Thought I would throw my two cents in.

Would love to here from some of the other Party Boat owners and Capts. on this too!

Come on...this is a great discussion forum* fun & educational!

Capt Greg

01-18-2008, 01:18 AM

Greg..you are a rarity...there are many* many party boat owners that do and don't advetise with us and very very few of them spend any time on their own web sites never mnd these boards...many...and actually most of them of them ...JUST DON'T GET IT!!!:confused:

OffTheHook13

01-18-2008, 07:55 AM

Well said CaptGM. Too bad there aren't more that think as you do.

gimmesalt

01-18-2008, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by CaptGM
DISLIKES - Braided line on trips it does not belong on. The cutless bearings hate this Big Time!

CaptGM* I like to use braid but on a party boat don't for bluefish* stripers* crowded boat or deep water (sometimes learning the hard way).

Can you give times when braid is OK / not-OK on a party boat? This would be good info.

Also what's "cutless bearings"

Thanks

OffTheHook13

01-18-2008, 02:52 PM

I would definately say night chunking for blues would be a braid no-no.:uzi:

Clam I am

01-18-2008, 03:45 PM

Yes CaptGM*

Inquiring minds would like to know about Braid No-No's.

I agree Bluefishing should be done mono only.

CaptGM

01-19-2008, 12:05 AM

The hot topic of Braided lines on Party boats has been the cause of arguments* and even some folks exchanging a few blows.

Most folks that fish party boats are not experienced fishermen that may only go once or twice a year for fun. They are standing close to guys and girls that know what they are doing. What inevidably happens is a tangle* or many tangles. When braided lines become tangled they are difficult at best to untangle without having to start cutting. The poor mates get yelled at for cutting rigs and having to re-tie because it can take a while when the bite is on. Braid will always win a fight with mono when fish are tangled together* someone (the person with mono) will probably have his fish break off. Especially Tuna!:crying:

The idea behind the braided line was to have a line that will sink quickly* and be extremely sensitive in Deep water fishing.
Cod* Blackfish* Deep Wrecks Sea Bass etc. Fishing vertically. It would also allow the angler to hold more line on his or her spool.

I and many others feel that Braided lines have their place and work well. It should not be used by inexperienced anglers due to the ease in which it can and will tangle.
Braid is great for bottom fishing* fluking* I have used it to replace SS wire with bunker spoons because it sinks fast* I have also used it with great success trolling Tuna.
It should not be used on crowded boats for Bluefish* Tuna.
We do allow it on the boat to try to keep everyone happy* however we insist that while chunking for Tuna that a 150ft top shot of mono is put on the spool so when the fish is straight up and down and may tangle another line its mono to mono and we have a better chance of landing both fish or untangling succesfully.
We would even like to see atop shot while blue fishing* lets face it* you dont need sensitive line to feel a Bluefish.

Have you ever watched someone in or around the stern of a party boat "Hook Up" and get excited about the tremendous battle they have going on* only to realize that they are cught in the props or have a fish do laps around the wheels. Mono will wrap around the shaft and prop and tangle just like the braid will* the difference is that the braid with its abrasiveness and thin diameter will work its way into the shaft bearings (Cutless) at the
props and literally wear away the bearings causing vibration in the shafts and then needing replacement. Mono is easy to cut off the shaft and props* braid is brutal! Cutless bearings run around $200.00 per before you send the diver down to replace them and cut the line from the shafts & wheels.

Sorry so long winded on this explaination but this is not a black & white issue. Braid just causes headaches on a crowded vessel* for fishermen and crew.

Ask the Capt of the boat(s) you fish on how they feel about braided lines. If they dont want it on the vessel leave it home.

Mono has been catching fish big and small for countless decades and will for many to come. Sometimes tackle companies catch more fishermen with new gear than we will catch fish. Dollar for dollar* Mono is still the best game in town.

hope that helps
Capt Greg.

I welcome the thoughts and opinions of the other Capts on this site about this topic. Jump right on in!:crazy:

cowkiller

01-19-2008, 12:32 AM

capt greg i only use braid when im bottom fishing for tog or seabass* cod I love the mono.fluke* braid only. and bass fishing only mono. ive also seen days where guys with mono out fish guys with braid tog fishing.the angler also helps with this. as some are better than others.i wont let certain guys fish braid on my boat because they dont have the feel yet. nothing worse than having a guy stuck in the piece and try to pull the cork out of the bottom with braid. i HATE THAT. it always has its time and place to useand that also depends on the angler. greg i wish you have a great 2008 season and if your ever in long beach look me up would love to have you abord the MY JOANN this season for some fish killing. capt joe MY JOANN.

CaptGM

01-19-2008, 12:55 AM

We are on the same page* It has its time & place. Some guys/Girls are good with braid* others should never use it at all.
Its all good as long as fish are coming over the rail!
Thanks for the well wishes for 08 and the same for you* the fishing game ain't gettin any easier.
I have been reading the other posts about having guys fish with you and I think thats great!
One day during the season I just may end up on your door step with a rod in hand looking to go kill some fish and learn a few new tricks in waters I probably don't fish!
Enjoy your time off as the season is not that far away!
By the way* we used to use live shiners this time of year for the Pickeral. Catch em up.
capt greg

CaptGM

01-29-2008, 10:05 PM

937 folks have viewed this thread* I can not believe that there are only 37 opinions on this subject.

Come On...lets here whats on your mind.

The Party Boat owners Want to do a good job for you* especially in these times of tough regs and high prices.
Lets here what you feel about the service* make suggestions* many good ideas have come from constructive critisim.

37 replies is only .039%.

Party boats are still the most economical* and best overall way to put fish in your freezer. Let us know what you would like to see or not see aboard. Who knows* we may surprise you!

Capt Greg

samborges

01-29-2008, 10:40 PM

Capt Greg you got my vote/fare for improving service. I already put my input on this subject* but something else I had on the top of my head. Let pretend* you go out for bluefish and the blues are no where to be found* carry some other type of bait* like squid * nothing to expensive. Try a different fish* with squid* you catch porgies* seabass* fluke and sometimes stripers. Let everybody know that the main catch are not biting and try something else. I believe many folks are glad to go home with something* then with nothing. Also with these new regs its hard to say what is open and closed* but thats a different story but I dont mean also to burn a ton of fuel or break your bank* you must make your honey pot also. Just a suggestion* you will see me in the spring* for sure. I honor the way you talk with your customer* you are 1 of the very few who cares what customer think and want.

CaptGM

01-30-2008, 01:17 AM

Great Idea... we have done that on charters and have been able to switch from Blues to Fluke.
We finally put a freezer in the crews quarters below and carry an assortment (originally by accident) but ended up using the supply on a few different trips. saved a few days.
Nice idea and duly noted* thanks for your input!

Capt Greg

CaptGM

02-12-2008, 12:39 AM

Aweful Quiet on this thread! Only 40 Replies and many* many views.

I am sure that there have been many GREAT party boat experiences that will last in your memory and some that were NOT GREAT. Lets hear them.

Seriously* I will and I hope other P-Boat operators will take your posts back to the crew and show them what the customer wants!

Jump on in and let us know whats on your mind. The season is not that far away!

Capt Greg

CaptGM

02-12-2008, 12:39 AM

Quanman

02-12-2008, 11:21 AM

I think what makes a great PB and a lousy PB is a direct reflection of the Captain. The decisions he/she makes and the expectations they demand of their crew.

Example: Great decision: I was on the Ocean Eagle on a cold and windy day. By the time we got out to the ocean it was like a washing machine. The Capt. deems it fishable but not comfortable. He makes the decision to return* gives everyone a full fare refund and white crabs purchased refund* and then a disount trip ticket for next time out.

Poor decision: A 100' boat out of Belmar. Nice day but large close swells. Before a line gets wet* half the people on board are chumming and a few waves break over the bow. Capt. wants everyone inside. He turns around and heads back in. When we get to the dock everyone gets a 5$ discount on you're next trip. Needless to say I never used mine.

Mates should know that regulars are regulars because they have felt special . Regulars will keep coming back. That means unfamiliar faces shouldn't be treated as such* but maybe given a little something extra so that they will become regulars. Just like any business there are employees that want to work and those that don't. It's easy to spot the mates that do* and these guys/gals should be rewarded for their part.

Guys just can't whip it out and piss over the rail on a PB. The Head should be clean and fully functional. It's nice to be able to wash you're hands before you eat* so not everything tastes like a clam or crab sandwich.

Jaye43b

02-12-2008, 11:43 AM

Great post!!! Kudos to the Ocean Eagle!!!!. That is how a captain with business integrity and acumen operates. His focus is on the longterm health of his business.

That is the kind of businessman that I will always support with my hard-earned $$$$. Too bad you did not post the name of the boat from Belmar. But based upon this post I will get a group of my friends to fish with the Ocean Eagle this season.

MarcoIsland1

02-12-2008, 12:49 PM

In terms of party boats* my dislikes are that some boats give their regulars preferential treatment in terms of spots on the boat. Many times* I have come very early to get a good spot. I get there first* but someone moves my rod while I am not looking. I'm not sure if this is done by the mates or what* but it is frustrating to get to the boat early to get a space* and then have your equiptment moved. I understand the rationale of treating your most frequent customers right* but there is a cutoff somewhere.

I also don't like when boats go in early* even when the fishing is poor.

While growing up* many party boats went in during a bite if the day was over. Now* I have experienced my boats stay out later when the fishing is good. I think that this is great and I will give my patronage to such boats.

CaptGM

02-12-2008, 11:48 PM

Originally posted by Quanman
I think what makes a great PB and a lousy PB is a direct reflection of the Captain. The decisions he/she makes and the expectations they demand of their crew.

Example: Great decision: I was on the Ocean Eagle on a cold and windy day. By the time we got out to the ocean it was like a washing machine. The Capt. deems it fishable but not comfortable. He makes the decision to return* gives everyone a full fare refund and white crabs purchased refund* and then a disount trip ticket for next time out.

Poor decision: A 100' boat out of Belmar. Nice day but large close swells. Before a line gets wet* half the people on board are chumming and a few waves break over the bow. Capt. wants everyone inside. He turns around and heads back in. When we get to the dock everyone gets a 5$ discount on you're next trip. Needless to say I never used mine.

Gosh I hope that 100ft boat was not mine & my Cap't running the boat that day did not do that! generally speaking I think we all try to make that call before leaving the inlet. It was pro of the Ocean Eagle to do what he did and deserves to fill his boat daily!
The heads are a great thing to bring up* they are and have been an issue on many boats including ours. They take a beating and take alot of maintenance. good point!

Party Boat owner dislike* head trashers-papertowels in head* throwing up in sink or on floor of head* among a few other unmentionables. Yuk!

Thank you for the input* well taken
:thumb:

Quanman

02-13-2008, 11:09 AM

It definately wasn't you're boat Capt. I've only heard good things about you're operation. This boat has been recently sold and now runs under a new name.

I know the head is a tough job. No paper towels necessary* just some soap and running water. Air dry in the summer and shirt sleeves and pant legs in the winter.

CaptGM

02-13-2008, 07:44 PM

That's a relief!
Nice to hear abour our reputation!!! We Try.

Speaking about the heads* we actually had some joker take a 1/2 roll of TP & jam it long way into the toilet so it would not flush and run all over! It was brutal getting it out. Always have a joker or two a week on board and a surprising amount of people with disgusting BR habits.

Regulars are another great topic! I know what we do* how about some of the other operators joining in on this topic. If you are a "regular" on a vessel yourself...your thoughts. If you are not a "regular"* lets here your thoughts and tell us what is would take to make you a regular.

Capt Greg

Clam I am

02-13-2008, 11:45 PM

Hey Capt maybe this year I'll make it to your boat....too bad your not on Long Island...sucks paying that toll on that Verrazano and the traffic is no bargain either...But from what people tell me* you have a top notch operation...much success this year!!!

cowkiller

02-13-2008, 11:48 PM

Hey Greg* Lock The Head And Give em A bucket with the toilet Paper they stuck in the bowl. Nothing better than trying to wipe your a$$ with WET toilet paper*That will Teach Them to mess up your head .:thumb:

CaptGM

02-15-2008, 03:57 PM

I like the bucket idea* it would definitely become a conversation piece aboard* and perhaps the not so head friendly folks would get the message.

Not alot of feedback on the "Regulars" question of a few days ago? :confused:

02-15-2008, 04:34 PM

This topic is a separate thread and should be started as such...there will be plenty to say about this.

BENNY

03-06-2008, 08:59 PM

MY 5 FAVORITE THINGS ABOUT PARTY BOATS.

1. A CAPTAIN THAT TAKES CARE OF ALL HIS CUSTOMERS* NOT JUST THE REGULARS.
2. A BOAT THAT LEAVES ON TIME* NOT ALWAYS WAITING FOR A FEW MORE FARES.

3. MATES THAT DO NOT FISH (SEEMS TO BE A POPULAR ONE)

4. A CAPT. THAT GIVES ALL SIDES OF THE BOAT EQUAL ACTION ON DRIFTS AND ANCHORING. (A RARE OCCASION)

5. FRESH BAIT

MY 5 THINGS I DISLIKE:

ALL THE OPPOSITE OF ABOVE.

BENNY

03-06-2008, 08:59 PM

CaptGM

03-06-2008, 10:15 PM

Thanks Benny*

Good stuff.

One point that is tough* when anchoring wind & current will dictate most of the time the vessel position. Even when double anchoring the bow still will be into the wind. You are correct about the drifting as the vessel can be turned to drift a different side each drift if nessasary.

Like all of your other points!

Capt Greg

MarcoIsland1

03-07-2008, 04:55 PM

Benny is right on. The only point I don't agree with is leaving on time. I am habitually late and have missed many boats by only being 2 - 5 minutes late. It ruins your day / night if you can't catch another boat.

03-07-2008, 05:07 PM

If a boat sails at 8 a.m. and you can't get there by 8 a.m. tough noogies..the boat sails...

leave early as I do always to give me a little extra time to scope out the boat once I get there and the earlier you get there the better spot you may find...just set the alarm early!

Jaye43b

03-07-2008, 06:05 PM

That is precisely why I keep the cell phone numbers of all the boat captains I frequent. On the unusual occasion that I am late* I have called and gotten them to wait an extra five minutes. Yes!!! that is a perk I enjoy but their business depends upon a stable set of customers.

That is a small concession for a customer he can count on month after month* year after year. My take!!!!

samborges

03-07-2008, 06:57 PM

Marco* follow jayb advice and have the boat captain cell # handy* let him know you 2 or 3 minutes out and will arrive in a few mins. If the capt knows you personally* he wait for 1 of his regular customer* but used this option only if you are a few mins late* not 10 mins or later. Think as if you was going to be on a job interview* please be on time. Fish On :thumb:

Surfmeister

03-09-2008, 04:09 AM

Originally posted by RJ
If a boat sails at 8 a.m. and you can't get there by 8 a.m. tough noogies..the boat sails...

leave early as I do always to give me a little extra time to scope out the boat once I get there and the earlier you get there the better spot you may find...just set the alarm early!

Tough noogies? Geez* RJ* you're getting soft in your old age!!! :}

Surfmeister

03-09-2008, 04:11 AM

Originally posted by MarcoIsland1
I am habitually late and have missed many boats by only being 2 - 5 minutes late. It ruins your day / night if you can't catch another boat.

My ex was habitually late * too* which is why we ended up with like ten kids. :p

Jaye43b

03-09-2008, 08:09 AM

Darn Surf!!! Took you ten before you learnt!!! Now here was an opportunity for the brain-challenged DEC to set the guidelines. Hahaha!!!!

Surfmeister

03-09-2008, 10:22 PM

Actually* that was just another fish tale...no kids that I know of yet. :D

BTW* you can't challenge something that doesn't exist* as in DEC brains.

cowkiller

03-09-2008, 10:35 PM

There is NO REASON to be late* unless a breakdown or flat tire or something along those lines.Party boats dont want to get a rep for leaving late its not good for business. If I tell my guys we are sailing at 7:00am thats what time the ropes come off. Ive left guys before and im sure I will again.

In this business TIME IS MONEY * Also the captain might want to catch a certain tide to fish* or beat another boat to a specific wreck or rockpile. Please dont be late as it is very unkool to the captain.:crying:

Clam I am

03-10-2008, 12:06 AM

i've always been a start fishing before the birds start chirping type of guy - some of the best fishing is right before the sun rises.

I love it when you're ready to head back home with a catch before most guys get started for the day.

MarcoIsland1

03-10-2008, 10:12 AM

That is a good idea. I definitely will do that.

CaptGM

03-10-2008, 10:49 PM

BE ON TIME! The other folks on board dont think its cool to wait after they all got there on time! you will be the most popular guy on board for the wrong reasons.

We have enough issues with the RR Bridge & NJ Transit being late* so we get held up from time to time. The folks really love that!

GM

MarcoIsland1

03-11-2008, 10:07 AM

Whoa - I wasn't implying that I was late all of the time - I have only been late a couple of times IN MY LIFE!!!! At these times* I was racing from work* which I have no control over.

I was only making a general statement. I'm not the person who always delays the boat - I'm generally there about an hour early on average to get a good spot.

I was only making a statement!!!! To clarify what I was saying* I (me* personally) don't have a problem with a boat leaving 5 minutes late* especially if the Captain is willing to make up this time. If goes on for 10 or 15 minutes* I might have a problem at that point.

Surfmeister

03-12-2008, 01:28 AM

Originally posted by MarcoIsland1
Whoa - I wasn't implying that I was late all of the time - I have only been late a couple of times IN MY LIFE!!!! At these times* I was racing from work* which I have no control over.

I was only making a general statement. I'm not the person who always delays the boat - I'm generally there about an hour early on average to get a good spot.

I was only making a statement!!!! To clarify what I was saying* I (me* personally) don't have a problem with a boat leaving 5 minutes late* especially if the Captain is willing to make up this time. If goes on for 10 or 15 minutes* I might have a problem at that point.

Well* you did say "habitually*" or was that just Clintonian legaleze?
("It depends on what the meaning of "is" is.")
:D :D :D

Surfmeister

03-12-2008, 01:37 AM

Quotes I have been known to say to my students:

"To parse is to create a farce." (Surfmeister)

"When you want to be specific* put down the shotgun and pick up the rifle." (Surfmeister)

;) ;)

CaptGM

03-12-2008, 01:56 AM

WOW

Jaye43b

03-12-2008, 02:30 AM

"When you want to be specific* put down the shotgun and pick up the rifle." (Surfmeister)

Very succinct but is this more apropos for Kentucky rather than Long Island?

Surfmeister

03-12-2008, 03:08 AM

Originally posted by Jaye43b
"When you want to be specific* put down the shotgun and pick up the rifle." (Surfmeister)

Very succinct but is this more apropos for Kentucky rather than Long Island?

If we're talking deer* yes* but if we're talking semantics* then no.

ytuna

04-02-2008, 08:56 PM

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ytuna

04-02-2008, 08:56 PM

Good:
- a captain and crew that respect the law (short fish and fish over the limit go back in the water), no looking the other way
- a captain that does not act as if he owns the ocean - I have literally watched a party boat circle a smaller boat at speed to try to knock the anchor of the smaller boat loose from a good piece
- a captain that finds his own fish, sometimes the fleet is together because it is the only spot with fish, other times it is safe, paying customers don't complain as much if none of the other boats are catching fish, the best captains go off on their own to try and find a few that are biting
- captains that have trust in their ability to find fish, if they think, with a turn in the tide the bite will start, they stay put and avoid the psychology move (a move made to satisfy the "experts" on the rail)
- a captain that let's folks know what they see on the machine, just communicating with the boat's whistle is not cool
- a captain that loves putting people on fish - some (fortunately few) hang out in the wheelhouse jabbering on the radio about how they can't wait for Miller time
- captains that experiment - nobody has learned everything there is to know - the best people in any profession try to get better - they try new equipment, new techniques and new locations

04-02-2008, 09:44 PM

"When you want to be specific* put down the shotgun and pick up the rifle." (Surfmeister)

Very succinct but is this more apropos for Kentucky rather than Long Island?

Jay you HAVE to learn to stop hijacking threads or I'm going to start using the delete buttons...stay on topic!!!!

CaptreeDeckhand

04-08-2008, 09:20 PM

**Dislikes**
fares who base an amount of tip on amount of fish caught or fish cleaned.
people who come out on the boat for free for any reason and dont tip well if at all.
when we tell fares the fishing isnt that great to be honest but still walk off the boat mad with no fish
Captains who dont try... some dont.. lets face it

**Likes**
The smell of diesel fuel in the morning, yea i know.. weird.. but it reminds me of many a great fishing days.
When a captain will switch over to another type of fishing in order to catch people fish mid trip.
Customers who will accept fishing pointers from me, apply them and catch a pool fish...

** Some Questions**
How do some of you know so much about the captains intentions or why they are doing a particular thing?? sounds like pure speculation for the most part.. You say they leave a spot when the fish are biting but let me ask you this... are the biting fish keepers or all little ones?? some are content with catching little fish all day but the majority are not.

Some people misconstrue a working mate that is fishing for a mate that is fishing because there is no enough people to work on the trip so he stays on the boat and fished, but helps out sometimes if needed... Feel free to ask if a guy is working or not before you pass judgement.. I personally do not fish when I work except for the rare occurence where I have less than 10 people on the boat and they all do not want me to bait their hook, take their fish off ect... RJ has seen me work and I do not throw a rod in at all...

Why cant a Captain fish if he wants to??? In my opinion its not the captains job to be part of the on deck operation so if your anchored on a wreck and he wants to throw a rod in for a bit. Why not??